A Obito (Tobi), Kakashi, Madara Theory :)

[greyfox1]

I have always thought that madara and obito are one and the same. What if Madara is going for Kakashi's sharingan eye so he can get some kind of ultimate power? As far as we know he only has that one sharingan, and the opposite is the one kakashi took.

[Vergil the Fallen]

Dude even if Obito is Madara and vice versa, why would he want more sharingan. Madara took his own brother's eyes to get EMS and that is the highest sharingan level one can achieve. He is immortal, he is the strongest character in the Naruto world currently. He can kill Kakashi whenever he feels like. If his true goal was to for Kakashi, he would have killed him during his first encounter with Kakashi and the gang in the forest just before Madara went to get Sasuke from the Uchiha temple.
And you are forgetting that Kakashi did not take the sharingan eye form Obito, he was given to him. So why would he want to take an eye which was given by himself to Kakashi years ago?
Obito is dead, case closed. There have been a gazillion theories but all of them have been taken care of. For instance, we know Madara was powerful enough to remain in the world for centuries due to EMS. Why would he want a destroyed body of a Uchiha kid? If he wanted anything, he would have gone for Sasuke when he was young (instead of Oro).
Let me tell you this. Madara's goals are way too beyond these simple things. Why do you think he is gathering the bijuus with the use of such powerful people, the Akatsuki? Its certainly not because of him getting more sharingan (that is, if there is a level beyond. EMS).

[rozarazan]

no way ,along with everything vergil said ,madara was old even when kakashi was still a kid ,kakashi is from the generation just before naruto's which means that madara was at least 50 years old when obito died ,plus a 1000 or like reasons to crush the theory ,sorry but that is no possible even in manga

[Ronar91]

Originally Posted by Vergil the Fallen

Dude even if Obito is Madara and vice versa, why would he want more sharingan. Madara took his own brother's eyes to get EMS and that is the highest sharingan level one can achieve. He is immortal, he is the strongest character in the Naruto world currently. He can kill Kakashi whenever he feels like. If his true goal was to for Kakashi, he would have killed him during his first encounter with Kakashi and the gang in the forest just before Madara went to get Sasuke from the Uchiha temple.
And you are forgetting that Kakashi did not take the sharingan eye form Obito, he was given to him. So why would he want to take an eye which was given by himself to Kakashi years ago?
Obito is dead, case closed. There have been a gazillion theories but all of them have been taken care of. For instance, we know Madara was powerful enough to remain in the world for centuries due to EMS. Why would he want a destroyed body of a Uchiha kid? If he wanted anything, he would have gone for Sasuke when he was young (instead of Oro).
Let me tell you this. Madara's goals are way too beyond these simple things. Why do you think he is gathering the bijuus with the use of such powerful people, the Akatsuki? Its certainly not because of him getting more sharingan (that is, if there is a level beyond. EMS).

For the first time in BNs history...I will agree with Verg on Naruto discussion(and I'm not lying this is the first time!!XD)...also Verg put it really nice and I can't think of something to add...nicely done Verg!

[uniby]

Originally Posted by rozarazan

no way ,along with everything vergil said ,madara was old even when kakashi was still a kid ,kakashi is from the generation just before naruto's which means that madara was at least 50 years old when obito died ,plus a 1000 or like reasons to crush the theory ,sorry but that is no possible even in manga

I totally agree that there is ages between madara and obito. there must be another reason that madara have one sharingan.

[derekmcdaniel]

Just because only one sharingan is shown, doesn't mean that Madara doesn't posess both eyes.

[kingmoncy07]

I doubt that Madara/Tobi lost his left eye, dunno why

[Augen]

So, he had sharingan, lived a while, fought 1st hokage, lost, lived in secrecy, reverted to a boy, relearned sharingan, got crushed, gave away one eye to Kakashi, regrew up and now wants eye back?

Um...a hole or two in this hypothesis.

[mizard]

what if in the time obito was crushed by the rocks madara show up and offer a deal in change of saving is life..madara is immortal but i assume he have to change bodies or pass is soul to another body to preserve is body.so obito agree with madara and he posses his body (while keeping is real bodie save or something like that)
that his why sometimes obito changes personality madara is asleep and only awakes when he wants...

[Ronar91]

Originally Posted by mizard

what if in the time obito was crushed by the rocks madara show up and offer a deal in change of saving is life..madara is immortal but i assume he have to change bodies or pass is soul to another body to preserve is body.so obito agree with madara and he posses his body (while keeping is real bodie save or something like that)
that his why sometimes obito changes personality madara is asleep and only awakes when he wants...

So the possibility of Madara just trying to conceal his to identity is so remote?Verg gave a good answer in his previous post...why would madara use a crashed f*cked up body while he couls take any other of the Uchihas???And what did he do?Dig out Obitos body after being crushed ,which most likely killed him instantly , and did what u said?O.o idk doesn't sound right to me..and btw why wouldn't he mention it to Sasuke?