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Lightbulb Violence and Video Games - Jul. 30th, 2009, 06:43 AM

Real-life examples of video game violence. Its kinda sad really at how stupid a person can get. And some occasions, quite funny. Yeah, i'm twisted and damn proud of it xD


On April 20, 1999, 18-year-old Eric Harris and 17-year-old Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher in the Columbine High School Massacre. The two were allegedly obsessed with the video game Doom. Harris also created WADs for the game, and created a large mod named "Tier" which he called his "life's work". Contrary to certain rumours however, neither student had made a Doom level mimicking the School layout, and there is no evidence the pair practiced the massacre in Doom.

In November 2001, 21-year-old American Shawn Woolley committed suicide after what his mother claimed was an addiction to EverQuest. Woolley's mother stated, "I think the way the game is written is that when you first start playing it, it is fun, and you make great accomplishments. And then the further you get into it, the higher level you get, the longer you have to stay on it to move onward, and then it isn't fun anymore. But by then you're addicted, and you can't leave it."

In February, 2003, 16-year-old American Dustin Lynch was charged with aggravated murder and made an insanity defense that he was "obsessed" with Grand Theft Auto III. Long time video game opponent and former attorney Jack Thompson encouraged the father of victim JoLynn Mishne to pass a note to the judge that said "the attorneys had better tell the jury about the violent video game that trained this kid [and] showed him how to kill our daughter, JoLynn. If they don't, I will."Lynch later retracted his insanity plea, and his mother Jerrilyn Thomas commented, "It has nothing to do with video games or Paxil, and my son's no murderer."

On June 7, 2003, 18-year-old American Devin Moore shot and killed two policemen and a dispatcher after grabbing one of the officers' weapons following an arrest for the possession of a stolen vehicle. At trial, the defense claimed that Moore had been inspired by the video game Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

On June 25, 2003, two American step brothers, Joshua and William Buckner, aged 14 and 16, respectively, used a rifle to fire at vehicles on Interstate 40 in Tennessee, killing a 45-year-old man and wounding a 19-year-old woman. The two shooters told investigators they had been inspired by Grand Theft Auto III.

On February 27, 2004 in Leicester, UK, 17-year-old Warren Leblanc lured 14-year-old Stefan Pakeerah into a park and murdered him by stabbing him repeatedly with a claw hammer and knife. Leblanc was reportedly obsessed with Manhunt, although investigation quickly revealed that the killer did not even own a copy of the game. The victim's mother Giselle Pakeerah has been campaigning against violent video games in the UK ever since.The police investigating the case have dismissed any link, as discussed in the relevant articles.

In October 2004, a 41-year-old Chinese man named Qiu Chengwei stabbed 26-year-old Zhu Caoyuan to death over a dispute regarding the sale of a virtual weapon the two had jointly won in the game Legend of Mir 3.

In August 2005, 28-year-old South Korean Lee Seung Seop died after playing Starcraft for 50 hours straight.

In September 2007, a Chinese man in Guangzhou, China, died after playing Internet video games for three consecutive days in an Internet cafe.

In December 2007, a Russian man was beaten to death over an argument in the MMORPG Lineage II. The man was killed when his guild and a rival guild challenged each other to a brawl in the real world.

On October 13 2008, 15-year-old Brandon Crisp from Barrie, Ontario, Canada ran away from home on his mountain bike after his parents confiscated his Xbox 360 following an argument regarding the time he spent playing Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. His body, which had fallen from a tree, was found on November 5, 2008 by some local fox hunters.

In September 2007 in Ohio, 16 year old Daniel Petric, sneaked out of his bedroom window to purchase the game Halo 3 against the orders of his father, a minister at New Life Assembly of God in Wellington, Ohio. His parents eventually banned him from the game after he spent up to 18 hours a day with it, and secured it in a lockbox in a closet where the father also kept a 9 mm handgun, according to prosecutors.In October 2007, Daniel used his father's key to open the lockbox and remove the gun and the game. He then entered the living room of his house and shot both of them in the head, killing his mother and wounding his father. Petric now faces up a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole. While defense attorneys argued that Petric was influenced by video game addiction, the court fully dismissed these claims.

False reports initially claimed that Seung-Hui Cho, the killer in the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre was an avid Counter-Strike player. However, police reports said that roommates of Cho had never seen him play any video games. Despite these discoveries, disbarred attorney Jack Thompson continued to erroneously claim that video games were to blame.

Controversy of speeding and evading the authority in racing games surfaced when a copy of Need for Speed: Most Wanted was found on one of the street racers' car in Toronto in January 19, 2006, when two 18-year-olds, Alexander Ryazanov and Wang-Piao Dumani Rossracers, were involved in an accident resulting the death of taxi-driver Tahir Khan. Nevertheless, the police did not find any connection between the game and the incident.

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Default Jul. 30th, 2009, 11:05 AM

yeah they're out there... and it sucks, cause whenever people like Jack Thompson go nuts over violence in games, the sad fact is there's actually some basis for it.
   
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Default Jul. 30th, 2009, 03:58 PM

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yeah they're out there... and it sucks, cause whenever people like Jack Thompson go nuts over violence in games, the sad fact is there's actually some basis for it.
There is absolutely no basis for it at all... most pleas of insanity related to video games are made up by lawyers so they can get an easy way out... only an idiot would believe this crap plea...

Anyway if you are stupid enough to be influenced by video games you are a hopeless retard that deserves to go and die doing stupid things...

Plus, why do you think each game has a damned rating!!! The rating system is there for a damned reason... to keep impressionable kids away from games that would influence them in the wrong way... but if the parents keep disregarding these simple guidelines then they themselves are to blame for their kids getting f*ucked up in the head and doing something stupid and violent... so all in all it is the parents fault not the games...

and in case you want to argue about the adults that do the stupid shit refer to my comment about retards that I made earlier...


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Default Jul. 30th, 2009, 07:27 PM

*sigh* people are just f'ing stupid and they use video games to blame...if thats the case blame movies, music, books, television hell life. And the russians....that's just
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Default Jul. 31st, 2009, 05:42 PM

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In December 2007, a Russian man was beaten to death over an argument in the MMORPG Lineage II. The man was killed when his guild and a rival guild challenged each other to a brawl in the real world.
Ha that one's new to me I heard of most of these, though in most cases the video games are indirectly related brought to light only to be used as a scapegoat.

I'm not surprised by a lot of the stupidity of people either if it wasn't the games its the movies, TV, or music influencing there feeble minds. Still these stories don't trump the one I heard about a boyfriend and girlfriend getting in a argument then ending up with the bf stabbing the gf with a crunchy taco.




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*sigh* people are just f'ing stupid and they use video games to blame...if thats the case blame movies, music, books, television hell life. And the russians....that's just
pretty fuckin funny
There's a difference because with games you actually influence what happens and in some cases can make things more violent (ex: wreaking havoc on the streets of Liberty City). And trust me, people HAVE tried to blame other media, but video games are the primary target because of the control the user has, as well as an archaic belief that video games are geared towards children (which is utter nonsense, but people detached from the gaming community still believe that).

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There is absolutely no basis for it at all... most pleas of insanity related to video games are made up by lawyers so they can get an easy way out... only an idiot would believe this crap plea...

Anyway if you are stupid enough to be influenced by video games you are a hopeless retard that deserves to go and die doing stupid things...

Plus, why do you think each game has a damned rating!!! The rating system is there for a damned reason... to keep impressionable kids away from games that would influence them in the wrong way... but if the parents keep disregarding these simple guidelines then they themselves are to blame for their kids getting f*ucked up in the head and doing something stupid and violent... so all in all it is the parents fault not the games...

and in case you want to argue about the adults that do the stupid shit refer to my comment about retards that I made earlier...
I'm not talking about insanity pleas... I'm talking about games influencing behavior, and there is certainly basis for that (although, there isn't a consensus on the magnitude of the increased aggression amongst behavioral psychologists). But you're right, it's not a reason to condemn game makers, because people need to be more responsible about their choice of entertainment. I won't use the word "retard" but there are kids out there who are clearly influenced by the games they play. It's not the game's fault... as I said above, video games are not exclusively for children any more. Parents need to know the kind of child they have. I'm not saying they have to police everything, but if you have an impressionable child, you have to make sure he's not playing Hitman and thinking "Oh cool, I never knew you can kill someone that way!".
   
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i say games r games they don't affect only if u choose 2 b affected



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Default Aug. 1st, 2009, 11:32 PM

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In December 2007, a Russian man was beaten to death over an argument in the MMORPG Lineage II. The man was killed when his guild and a rival guild challenged each other to a brawl in the real world.
Lol, this sounds like something outta that movie Anchor Man.

Gotta agree with some earlier posts. People always jump to blame a video game. They never start yelling about all the crap you find on TV or movies. How is blaming a game better than blaming those???


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They never start yelling about all the crap you find on TV or movies. How is blaming a game better than blaming those???
The general logic is that games are different because the user controls it, but more importantly the people who complain about games still believe that video games are for children, and therefore violent games are meant for children to play. It's not the case, but that's what people think.

I don't know how old you are, but I'm 23 and when I was a kid, Camel cigarettes had a mascot that was a cartoon named Joe Camel. Eventually, it was banned because because people just associated "cartoons" with "youth," and a cigarette company using a cartoon mascot was a way of appealing to youths and getting them to smoke. It's the same concept with video games. People believe that video games are intended for children, so if you make violent video games, you're marketing violence to children. It's stupid, and it's something that will change when people who actually played video games as children have power. For now, people are so detached (why was John McCain trying to get violent games banned in Arizona? Has he ever seen a video game?) that they don't realize games aren't necessarily for children any more.
   
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Default Aug. 21st, 2009, 12:51 AM

Wow the idea of all these people dieing and killing just because of video games is just absurd
   
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