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Default Dec. 5th, 2008, 11:19 PM

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duff, but i think that he is to weak to make easly so angry, but next ch. will be interesting.
I think the reason why Isley is angry is that he was abandoned by Priscilla and all. So i think Riful sent Duff to do a recon on him since we all know that Riful is trying to conquer as much land as possible. But i could be wrong though.
   
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Default Dec. 31st, 2008, 08:33 PM

Cant be duff, too weak that dude.
Galatea pretty much owned him 7 years ago, now when claire miria helen etc. rape shit compared to those times, someone like duff cant be called some misterious "demon" that should be avoided cuz its too strong.

Im wondering, why is it, that Claymores can learn and improve their ability, but awakened beings just stay the same eversince they awakened?
   
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Default Jan. 1st, 2009, 07:14 PM

if we talk about duff, he isnt that weak, he is far to stupid and because of that he was owned.
but as i allready said even trought he is strong, he is to weak to anger someone as isley.
he was realy pissed of to any known limit.
probably work of organizacion or thair enemys.

awakened doesn't imprive in thair ability, meby they can only become more smarter, but not more yoki, speed, power,...
thats as far as we know, but i think there isn't any 100% proof. meby they improve but very slowly.
i have written a theory about them some time ago, but is quite long to read so i didn't post it.


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Default Jan. 2nd, 2009, 07:50 PM

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Default Jan. 5th, 2009, 12:34 PM

ok here you have, take your time, since these were originaly 3 posts, but now is together as one theory.

Spoiler: theory
i went trought some old chapters of claymore and one part give me idea about new theory, but first i want to ask.
what do you think to who are awakened ones closer to yoma or to claymore and whay?

meby they are not that far from creating true awakened ones, because the only real problem is thair personalty after awakening and is true that half awakening is key to that creation.
first in battle between lucia and isley we saw that awakened ones true form is that of human and not that of monster and so is great possibility that awakened ones can't took form of other human as yoma. (to put it simple: yoma: monster -> human, awakened ones: human -> monster, claymore: human -> monster)
Claymore 64 page 26 | One Manga (lucia can't keep form)
Claymore 64 page 27 | One Manga
Claymore 71 page 16 | One Manga (isley is in human form too)

than we saw that they can use partly transformation, as we allready saw it in clare incomplite awakening. (so meby first stage is helena's streching arms (boost in thair special abilitys)<< clares legs, since i think that only legs transformed to 100% real form << last is as isley free transformation)
Claymore 63 page 06 | One Manga (isleys parly form)
Claymore 60 page 02 | One Manga (clare partly awakened, i don't think that her arms have full awakened form)
Claymore 27 page 13 | One Manga (boost of special skills)
Claymore 27 page 16 | One Manga (boost of special skills)

so i thought what if awakening create great stress for mind and claymore goes trought nerves break down, since moust closer to her prewius personalty was orphelia but she was partly crazy to begin. so great mental power can protect mind form breaking under presure of great yoma energy and even controle it. (so we are again at begining: claymores are monsters with human mind and in every battle they fight for thair lives and for staying human)

emotinal breaks down
Claymore 22 page 17 | One Manga (priscila)
Claymore 23 page 14 | One Manga
Claymore 37 page 24 | One Manga (orphelia)
Claymore 39 page 19 | One Manga
Claymore 30 page 02 | One Manga (miria)
Claymore 30 page 03 | One Manga
Claymore 30 page 04 | One Manga
Claymore Extra Scene 1 page 24 | One Manga (rosemary)

Claymore 42 page 28 | One Manga (jean)
Claymore 42 page 29 | One Manga
Claymore 46 page 28-29 | One Manga

body or mind limits.
Claymore 4 page 30 | One Manga
Claymore 11 page 05 | One Manga (clare)
Claymore 11 page 07 | One Manga

but truth is there is still a part that's missing in this theory and that's is how much bodys change with halfawakening and how much body change with awakening, this is only missing part.

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it looks like color return so they again look like they did before becoming awakened ones, but there isn't any proof, since we don't know thair original color of hair beside teresa wich was black.
and we don't know if they can change it but probably not since they allway look the same, not like yome wich change how they look in every town.
one of possibilitys is thair bodys have become better fuzion of yoma and human (before yoma meat was consuming them but with awakening they complitly fuzed together and consumed color comed back, but now there isn't any human meat to consume so they have to eat humans, otherwise they will shrink as priscila since yoma meat slowly consumed it's own meat)
(halfawakened ones have to eat more often than normal claymore)
and about personality, yoma energy probably break thair mind as nerves break down soo thair mind become that of few years younger claymore or totaly opposite or even voilent (priscila become 6years old child and complite beast) wich fallow instincts and instincts are eat humans. good exsample is orphelia she want to eat but she doesn't know what she is saying.
But when thairs body become better fuzion it looks like it become stock on that state for ever and they can't become stronger anymore. it looks like when they are claymore thair human parts are consumed by yoma meat and because of that they don't need much food and water, but i think that that food is only necesary to restore some of human body soo it can be consumed again but normal claymores rate is probably (80-20 consume-repair), when at halfawakened is rate repaired so i would say that is 50-50, but they have to eat much more and yoma meat consume much more as well, but i would say that thair bodys are more adjusted to that proces and regeneration is faster.
human meat slowly thickens yoma inside thair bodys so they can become stronger with work out since they allwasy use yoma energy, even in supresed state they still use yoma energy. yoma energy becomed center of thair bodys soo they can't live without it, but with time trace can dissapear, but is still there, just unnecesary energy don't leave body and so it can't be traced. (Claymore 66 page 07 | One Manga "any trace of it leaking out")


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Default Jan. 5th, 2009, 10:51 PM

Alright read the latest Chapter... The Claymore world has changed a lot after Clare and others are back from the North. The latest chapter has Exterminators and for some reason they react to the Yoki from the Yoma. Plus, it seems that Organization have set it to kill Abyssal and they are like failed claymores or they might be a different brand of claymores. o.o" However, during these years the Organization has changed a lot. Plus, knowing the true information about the Organization seems weird too. :x It's going to be good. :P




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Default Jan. 6th, 2009, 07:17 AM

It was a chapter full of surprises. The first one was Helen owning Isley. Two things that come to mind. He is mentally and physically hurt. Mentally because Priscilla left him and physically after his last show down. But the thing is, he hasn't used his released state yet. It would be nice to see how he tackles the Claymores and the new breed of zombie looking things. I think if they are too much for Isley, he may have to join hands with the two ex-Claymores. 'Enemy of a person's enemy is a friend'. Isley has currently no devastating agenda that might hurt the ex-Claymores.
   
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Default Jan. 6th, 2009, 11:33 AM

I don't think that Isley wants to go at full power due to the Exterminators and might have already fought them before. He is holding his powers back not to have them follow him. The other part is that we don't know why Priscilla left with Raki and could be after the battle with the Abyssal Luciela might have caused her to hate fighting. The other thing I am worried about is why is Priscilla suppressing her urges to eat humans? O.o Is it because of Raki? or could be that Priscilla almost had the urge to Raki and is frightened that she let her Yoma took over her. Also, when Clare finally meets up with Raki that's going to be pretty interesting. o.O Plus, would it trigger Priscilla's memory back and she would go another rampage...




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Default Jan. 7th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Priscilla, i think now, is in firm control over her urges. I think so because she left Isley for one thing and then got to Raki even after she went berserk on Clare in front of him. So it all points out towards Raki. Its primarily because of him she controlled herself.
As for Isley, considering the fact that he was beaten to a pulp by Helen still in his human mode means that he has weakened. So if, as you said, that the Exterminators go after him, he may have to go full form. In a way, he seems a little pissed and disappointed. That may become a important factor considering whether he will go all out or not. If he is indeed pissed, which he should be, he would want to take care of the mess as quickly as possible but in order to do this, he has to go to his full form. He has already shed half of his human form in the latest chapter when he threw out those flat tentacles at Helen.
   
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Default Jan. 7th, 2009, 04:54 PM

Isley's power is that he can transform into any form... He actually doesn't have one form. The Pegasus form was made by him as he thought it was stronger. o.O Well, nevertheless I don't think Isley is that weak. I think there was a fight between Isley and Raki or Priscilla finally got her memories back... Either way, it seems that we are missing a big chunk of the story. o.o" Plus, there is a new threat with these Exterminators because if Helen and other exClaymore are there then they might get caught in it to. Plus, the Claymore who is in the forest said that another town is going to be destroyed. o.o" So, I guess they are set up by the organization to keep a close eye on Isley.




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