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Default About Kenpachi - Feb. 9th, 2009, 08:32 PM

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I remember reading some interesting theories about Zaraki and I'd like your input.

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2. Kenpachi does not, strictly speaking, exist.

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This is more about building an idea of the situation from anecdotal evidence. I think we can all agree that Yachiru is not a well child. Her first appearance in the manga's timeline is on the field where Kenpachi butchered a bunch of bandits. So, the theory is as follows:

- Yachiru and family/friends are beset by the bandits.
- Yachiru finds the discarded Zanpakutou.
- In order to make the bad men go away, Yachiru unwittingly creates a much badder man to fight them.
- Right after that fight, 'Kenpachi' names himself Zaraki Kenpachi, introducing himself to Yachiru, who he names in turn. This is probably the Zanpakutou giving its name to the wielder.
Taken from: [Ju-Ni] Discussion Board :: View topic - Theories and Odd Thoughts. post made by: Vicissitude

And after discussing it with a friend too, it seemed far fetched BUT plausible. For example, Ichigo cut him right below the eye, into the skull, he just laughed and kept on slashing and hacking. Also during the fight with Nnoitra he just got cut everywhere and nothing stopped him, and Yachiru seemed to boost him in power. He doesn't know his shikai or bankai and we've never seen Yachiru's sword, just a scabbard with wheels and a small hilt. There might not be a blade.
Cons being: He trained with Yamamoto who would surely see through that. And neither of the other captains found anything wrong. And all the rest of cons one can think of.

Might be TOO far fetched but then again, we're just supposing and trying to think of something. Your thoughts will be welcomed in this matter as I'm curious as to what others think.

PS: Posted on Manga section because I wasn't unsure if I should post on Anime.:/
I also searched and only found a bit similar post wondering about Yachiru's name story, not exactly Zaraki. And also found a reversed theory: Theory by: Dick75 Which last post was 28-3-2008.;X


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Default Feb. 9th, 2009, 11:17 PM

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Cons being: He trained with Yamamoto who would surely see through that
yeah I think that pretty much sums it up. Kenpachi had too many interactions in general with people who are far too knowledgeable with it comes to power matters. Interesting thought, though.
   
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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 10:11 AM

So its like Kenpachi is Yachirus Zanpaktu? or didnt i get the Idea right? Or that the Blade is in its Bankei form all the time and the manifestation of the blade is "Kenpachi" but too stupid to realise that he is wielding himself or whatever?

If so, then it doesnt explain the theory behind "he can get stabbed so often" because the manifestation of bankeis can also feel pain, erupt, explode, whatever.
Just look at Mayuri or Renjis Bankei, we have seen it more than one they can also "die", need time to recover from wounds etc.
   
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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 10:40 AM

Hear, hear (referring to the cons).

Basically, Soul Society isn't that stupid to not know that one of the Captains is actually a materialization of a zanpakutou. Next, they would not allow it, either. I think the whole matter about Kenpachi not caring whether he gets cut small or huge is that he just simply loves to fight. A fighter can never be afraid of death. He's actually enjoying it. A cheer from Yachiru means a lot to him, because they've been together for who knows how long. He's just like Ichigo, he gets strong when he gets all cheered and encouraged and whatnot by the people who are important to him.


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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 11:15 AM

Also i think that the reason why he can withstand MUCH more damage to his body than anyone else (like getting a deeeeeeeep cut under the eye against Nnoitra...) is, that he uses his vast amount of spirit power and his control over it to move his broken limbs etc. if he needs to.
Very hard to explain, its like his willpower is controlling the reiatsu so the parts of his body that are "unable" to operate (broken, tendonds are cut etc.) still move to his will.

Something similar to that was stated by Ishida, when he explained how some Quincy who got old and slow or injured used their ability to control spirit particles to "keep on moving" as if their body was still intact. Dont remember where it was.

As for Kenpachi, it would not be his ability to really control and use reiatsu/spirit particles, but more just (as many have stated) his will to fight.
   
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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 11:53 AM

Aye, it'd be a long shot.
And, firini, you might be right. In a way that he uses his reiatsu, even if unwillingly, his thirst for blood and fight is just so strong that his reiatsu molds itself to 'ignore' (temporarily) his wounds and go on and on until there's no reiatsu or his body collapses, if that's what you meant than I think you can be right.

My OP was just a theory I found and wanted to get people's thoughts on it and other theories about Kenpachi. He's cool in a way and we know too little of him.


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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 05:57 PM

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. I think the whole matter about Kenpachi not caring whether he gets cut small or huge is that he just simply loves to fight. A fighter can never be afraid of death. He's actually enjoying it. A cheer from Yachiru means a lot to him, because they've been together for who knows how long. He's just like Ichigo, he gets strong when he gets all cheered and encouraged and whatnot by the people who are important to him.
Well put. Calling this theory that Kenpachi isn't actually a Shinigami but a Zanpakuto shouldn't even be considered even close to "plausible" it's more like very highly improbable. Tousen described Kenpachi in better words. "A Demon." He's a true freak of nature, reiatsu-wise, and how he's a complete masochist when it comes to his fighting. I can see how his complete lack of self-concern would make it seem like he's not actually a Shinigami, but the fact of the matter is, he is just a man that has no fear, even of death.

The fact that he resorted to Kendo in his fight with Nnoitra is evidence that Kenpachi can die. He even said "At this rate, I really will die." It doesn't necessarily mean that he's afraid of death, he just would rather not die so he can keep fighting. Even if he were to die, he probably wouldn't mind as long as the person who beat him was stronger.



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Default Feb. 10th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Kenpachi is just a beast. No fear makes u stronger. if you fear death than you are adraid of life. if u fear nothing you put everything into whatever you wanna do. If you dont fear death you can cheat it.........


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Default Feb. 11th, 2009, 07:46 AM

I don't believe the absence of fear makes him stronger. I think it's his own thirst for the adrenaline of battle. It's not that he doesn't feel fear, it's just that he overcomes it.

We all fear something in the end, some fear dark others fear heights. Some point in our life we overcome those fears. In my opinion, without fear we would be like animals and beasts, fear is logical, quoting "We fear that which we cannot see" (from Bleach episode 1). Logically Kenpachi fears, he just doesn't stay there thinking how to overcome it, he jumps and faces his fear face to face. That's bravery (some would call it foolishness) not the absence of fear.


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Default Feb. 11th, 2009, 09:55 AM

I agree, Kenpachi doesnt fear death, but he surely fears a point where he loses a battle and will be left injured, with no way to recover so that he can never fight again.

Everyone has a little fear somewhere... and guess what... i will USE IT AND TAKE OVER BWWAAHAHAHAHAHA...

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