Tousen betraying Aizen?

[silenceisntgold2]

I just thought of something. What if Tousen betrays Aizen? I don't think this has ever been discussed. The 9th squad is the calmest of all the squads. I'm beginning to speculate that he's still with SS, and Yamamoto planned this from the beginning, possibly(though the vizard thing was a bit far). He's the "justice" guy as we all know, and for all we know, he could be lying to everyone about him being on Aizen's side. He also(from what I recall) didn't show any emotion when leaving Komamura, man's best friend. To me, Tousen does not seem like the kind of guy to show no emotion when betraying a comrade. We all saw how he reacted to Grimmjow acting cocky around Aizen after invading Karakura by himself.

This is just some food for thought.

[Mushiro]

I thought the same thing before the Turn Back The Pendulum arc, but now that I know that Tosen has been sketchy for that long. I don't find it as likely to happen. Yes, he has a strong sense of justice, and he's a pacifist. However he sees Aizen as a righteous person. In fact, Aizen hasn't done any fighting at all. Tosen said that he follows the path of least blood shed, and so far Aizen has shed very little blood.

If Aizen does do something across the line in front of Tosen, I don't know how he would react. I do know for sure though, he has a strong allegiance with Aizen, and holds him with the highest of respect.

[Vergil the Fallen]

Originally Posted by Mushiro

I thought the same thing before the Turn Back The Pendulum arc, but now that I know that Tosen has been sketchy for that long. I don't find it as likely to happen. Yes, he has a strong sense of justice, and he's a pacifist. However he sees Aizen as a righteous person. In fact, Aizen hasn't done any fighting at all. Tosen said that he follows the path of least blood shed, and so far Aizen has shed very little blood.

If Aizen does do something across the line in front of Tosen, I don't know how he would react. I do know for sure though, he has a strong allegiance with Aizen, and holds him with the highest of respect.

Funny you would mention that. I had a theory written on my computer, waiting to make a thread. Although i'll be going off-topic but I think it should be done here. As for Tousen, he is the last person to actually betray Aizen. He betrayed his best friend, Sajin to join the team and in fact betrayed for what he actually believed in. He is kind of took Momo's place. He has been with Aizen for so long and is willing to kill shinigami on his order (in the Pendulum arc when he almost killed off Hiyori)
Alright here is the theory.
I got a question. Why is Inoue being kept alive by Aizen? Aizen mentioned that the sole purpose of Inoue was to allure some of the SS captains to HM and trap them there whilst he and his merry men go to the human world to get rid of the remaining captains in the human world. Knowing Aizen, he does not hesitate to kill. He showed his killing intent when he tried to kill off Shinji and the gang while they were turning into hollows (Tousen almost killed off Hiyori). I don't think Aizen is going to use Hiyori any further since he left only Uliquorra in HM. The odds are against him. 3 captains there already.
Related to the above theory, one can say that Aizen is not willing to fight. I mean he had lots of chances to kill off people like Momo, Hitso, Sajin, Renji and Ichigo but yet he did not. So keeping in mind this, almost all of us (at least the second time) noticed Aizen’s reaction to Momo’s arrival. Almost everybody concluded that she might be some hindrance to his plans but what if he actually cared for her? She is weak than the Fraccion and she might get herself killed.
Its only a theory but it is a plausible scenario because Tite is known to give us big plot twists like the Pendulum Arc.

[Ajvkorn]

I agree with Momo being a "glitch" in his plans, but having feelings for her is a bit iffy imo..I just think she is going to have some sort of power that just pwns aizen and she just hasn't awakened it...Like Kryptonite to superman.

[Darth Kenshin]

Originally Posted by Mushiro

I thought the same thing before the Turn Back The Pendulum arc, but now that I know that Tosen has been sketchy for that long. I don't find it as likely to happen. Yes, he has a strong sense of justice, and he's a pacifist. However he sees Aizen as a righteous person. In fact, Aizen hasn't done any fighting at all. Tosen said that he follows the path of least blood shed, and so far Aizen has shed very little blood.

If Aizen does do something across the line in front of Tosen, I don't know how he would react. I do know for sure though, he has a strong allegiance with Aizen, and holds him with the highest of respect.

That's pretty much exactly what I thought... Aizen's methods have been very indirect and manipulative, but no one has actually died as a result since the Shinigami in the TBTP arc, which really isn't all that many (especially if he somehow can justify that perfecting the hollowfication process serves the greater good, which Tousen must believe). Plus, we're yet to understand Tousen's motives. Other than being a "just" person, we don't know what he hopes to gain with all of this. As for the 2nd part of your post, I don't think Tousen will take up arms against Aizen. If Aizen does something Tousen doesn't agree with, my belief is that he just wouldn't help him in that particular area. We saw in the TBTP arc that he's terrified of Aizen's power. He's too smart to ever actually fight him. Unless it's something completely massive (like Tousen was a pawn all along or something) I can't see him completely turning against Aizen.

Originally Posted by Vergil the Fallen

I got a question. Why is Inoue being kept alive by Aizen? Aizen mentioned that the sole purpose of Inoue was to allure some of the SS captains to HM and trap them there whilst he and his merry men go to the human world to get rid of the remaining captains in the human world. Knowing Aizen, he does not hesitate to kill. He showed his killing intent when he tried to kill off Shinji and the gang while they were turning into hollows (Tousen almost killed off Hiyori). I don't think Aizen is going to use Hiyori any further since he left only Uliquorra in HM. The odds are against him. 3 captains there already.
Related to the above theory, one can say that Aizen is not willing to fight. I mean he had lots of chances to kill off people like Momo, Hitso, Sajin, Renji and Ichigo but yet he did not. So keeping in mind this, almost all of us (at least the second time) noticed Aizen’s reaction to Momo’s arrival. Almost everybody concluded that she might be some hindrance to his plans but what if he actually cared for her? She is weak than the Fraccion and she might get herself killed.
Its only a theory but it is a plausible scenario because Tite is known to give us big plot twists like the Pendulum Arc.

1) As Mush pointed out, Aizen sheds very little blood. He had chances to kill people who were much bigger threats than Orihime, but he opted not to. My guess was he doesn't want to kill Orihime because there's no need to. Ulquiorra pretty much said that he has to protect Hueco Mundo, and that doesn't involve killing her. I don't think Aizen sees her as a threat. But then I thought about it: why did he recapture her? He already had Ichigo and the 4 captains trapped in HM, so why did he send Stark to grab her again? I think he does have some kind of plan for her power. I suggested in other threads that this isn't Aizen's final move. I think he has a whole other army, and he might still have some use for Orihime's powers.

2) I think it's entirely possible that he has some feelings for Momo (NOT romantic), but the weird thing is the only people he tried to kill were Hitsugaya and Momo . Well, he didn't try to kill them: he tried to have them kill each other. Aizen didn't formulate any kind of plans for any of the other captains or Vice Captains (interestingly, not even Sajin, who could've been a threat since he stayed so close to Tousen). Yet, he had the chance to kill both with his own hands, and didn't do it. It makes no sense to me. He wanted them to kill each other, and there's no doubt he's powerful enough to kill Momo from close range, so why is she still alive? Did he hold back? Maybe his reaction during the fight was that he was shocked she was still alive. The more I think about it, the more I contradict something that I previously thought of. So I'm not gonna think about it any more. I'll just concede that Aizen is far more complicated a villain than we typically see in manga.

But the ONE thing I'm afraid of is Tite is preventing Aizen from killing any one we're attached to in order to make him some kind of sympathetic villain in the end. That would infuriate me. I like my villains evil

[grimmjaw88]

Originally Posted by silenceisntgold2

I just thought of something. What if Tousen betrays Aizen? I don't think this has ever been discussed. The 9th squad is the calmest of all the squads. I'm beginning to speculate that he's still with SS, and Yamamoto planned this from the beginning, possibly(though the vizard thing was a bit far). He's the "justice" guy as we all know, and for all we know, he could be lying to everyone about him being on Aizen's side. He also(from what I recall) didn't show any emotion when leaving Komamura, man's best friend. To me, Tousen does not seem like the kind of guy to show no emotion when betraying a comrade. We all saw how he reacted to Grimmjow acting cocky around Aizen after invading Karakura by himself.

This is just some food for thought.

I think Tousen would be the last one to betray Azien ,Tousen believes in aizen ,and Azien for him is the only one who's able to make the Justice becomes true in the whole world ... and if Yamom really knew about Aizen's plan previously then whats the point from letting him do all what he has done until now.

[Mushiro]

Originally Posted by Darth Kenshin

I don't think Aizen sees her as a threat. But then I thought about it: why did he recapture her? He already had Ichigo and the 4 captains trapped in HM, so why did he send Stark to grab her again? I think he does have some kind of plan for her power. I suggested in other threads that this isn't Aizen's final move. I think he has a whole other army, and he might still have some use for Orihime's powers.

Perhaps he does see her as a threat still. He's manipulated her into thinking she is weak and that she doesn't have the power to help the situation, when in fact she does. Aizen himself said that her powers go against the will of god, and if Aizen plans on being a god. Inoue is someone he would want to keep a close eye on to make sure she never does fully develop her powers.

Originally Posted by Darth Kenshin

But the ONE thing I'm afraid of is Tite is preventing Aizen from killing any one we're attached to in order to make him some kind of sympathetic villain in the end. That would infuriate me.

That would suck, but it's steering in that direction.

Originally Posted by Darth Kenshin

I like my villains evil

That made me laugh lol

[CommanderCody88]

why do ppl always come up with pointless threads....its as pointless as this comment...

[Itachi_uchiha_420]

Originally Posted by CommanderCody88

why do ppl always come up with pointless threads....its as pointless as this comment...

Because people get curious when they get bored. But i think it's a pretty valid question

[Deathga]

Originally Posted by Mushiro

I thought the same thing before the Turn Back The Pendulum arc, but now that I know that Tosen has been sketchy for that long. I don't find it as likely to happen. Yes, he has a strong sense of justice, and he's a pacifist. However he sees Aizen as a righteous person. In fact, Aizen hasn't done any fighting at all.Tosen said that he follows the path of least blood shed, and so far Aizen has shed very little blood.
If Aizen does do something across the line in front of Tosen, I don't know how he would react. I do know for sure though, he has a strong allegiance with Aizen, and holds him with the highest of respect.

I agree with you on that part.

Although I think Tousen has some plans of his own of which he plans to follow Aizen's to achieve. As some have pointed out Aizen planned everything so he himself wouldn't have to do much. He even planned his OWN death to prevent less trouble, and to even turned SS against themselves. AKA the whole blame went to Hitsugaya, and caused the whole fight between him and Hinamori. If Aizen wanted to he could of just turned against SS without going through all of this, but he set up everything perfectly, and evidently saved a lot of blood shed.. of his own doing that is.

There is a lot behind Tousen that makes me believe he wants to follow Aizen also. Like the story between his Zanpaktou and the death of his friend.(A little off topic, but just pointing out.) If Aizen becomes King, I like to think of it as Death Note as what Kira/Light was trying to achieve. A lot of people followed him, and were against him. Some thought of him as "Justice & God" and some as "Evil & the devil". This is how I see Tousen's view of Aizen, and everyone elses for that matter.

Once, or If Aizen achieves what hes aiming for, is when Tousen will be able to achieve what he himself is aiming for. So basically I don't believe hes going to betray Aizen, but use him I guess would be sort of a way to put it. This is just my view of Tousen's reasoning for joining Aizen.