Who will the vizards side with? - Page 3

bigdaddy9247 · 08-12-2008

True. They share a common goal . But after that is done, do you think Yamajii would let them exist. Look what happened to the Quinceys. They shared a common goal. To balance the souls. They both killed hollows. But the SS always has to have the last say and they will attempt to kill the Viz's if they think they can be a threat. But what would be cionsidered a threat from the Viz's?
A wrongly asked question about fairness and their prosecution during the aftermath of their creation? I'd be pissed if i was Shinji. A fellow captain that needed help was sentenced to death.

silenceisntgold2 · 08-12-2008

The quincys were only killed off by SS because they were causing an impurity in the balance. They demolished the souls of the hollows, the shinigami purify them. I think that Ukitake, Shunsui, Byakuya(as he probably remembers them), and Shuhei will definitely back them up. Yamamoto might be confused about their appearance there, because it seems like he's trying to make up for the loss of the Central 46.

bigdaddy9247 · 08-12-2008

But we see how they handle things that they dont like. Shinji is a veteran captain. He knows if the SS cant be bargained with, then the only other option is warfare. This is the perfect time to attack the SS. They cannot fight them by themselves with Top epadas around. The Vizards can kill 2 birds with one stone right now. But will they??
I'm not sure the Vizard's loyalties are to anyone right now.

derekmcdaniel · 08-12-2008

SS originally believed that Urahara created the vizards and they still put up with his existence. With the info I am aware of, unless the vizards pose any threat toward SS, then I don't think they will be on the high priority list of outlaws.

**Vergil the Fallen** · 08-13-2008

Ok i have waited long enough. First of all, SS wanted to kill off both Urahara and the the Vizards originally and so did Aizen. Now the situations changed when SS found new use for Urahara and his genius so he was off the hook. Compare this to the Vizards situations which frankly hasn't changed at all from the time they left SS till now. So Vizards still have the mind set that SS is out to get them.
Secondly, look at the sides. They seem to lean in Urahara's favor. But u should note this. It was because of Aizen, they found these powers. Without these powers, they would have been replaced. Thats a weak argument, i know. But remember this. Being on Urahara's side and being on SS side are totally different things. Urahara left the SS. Yes, he still has connection but he is no longer associated with SS in the literal sense. As long as i'm concerned, Vizards are on their own side and if there comes the chance to fight, they will fight Aizen with or without the SS. Their hatred towards SS is clear. One reason for them to fight is Uarhara and the second reason is in SS, fighting Uliquorra-> Ichigo. I hope this makes the whole thing crystal clear.

Darth Kenshin · 08-13-2008

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Originally Posted by derekmcdaniel

SS originally believed that Urahara created the vizards and they still put up with his existence. With the info I am aware of, unless the vizards pose any threat toward SS, then I don't think they will be on the high priority list of outlaws.

I don't remember the exact details, but I believe the Vizards and Urahara were viewed differently. Urahara was considered a traitor, and I believe he was going to be imprisoned. Once it became clear Aizen was behind that, it cleared his name, which is why he and SS work together now. But the Vizards were considered threats. They were to be dealt with like hollows, which means, they were going to be killed. I don't think that's gonna change. However, as I said previously (somewhere) I don't think the Vizards truly hate Soul Society. I don't think they'll pick a fight with them while the Aizen battle is going on. I feel to some degree, they still do care about some of the Shinigami, particularly ones they got along with in the past (like Kyoraku). They may be angry with the administration (Central 46, perhaps Yamamoto) but that's not enough to get them to fight Soul Society any time soon.

bigdaddy9247 · 08-13-2008

Well I'm a evil kinda guy. I love revenge when you least expect it. I would love for the Vizards to go out fighting everyone. But obviously they will side with SS against Aizen. But I just cant say that for sure. I would like to think that after they dispatch of the Espadas, they will try to settle a score vs SS.
I know if i was Shinji, I would be like
"Hears the deal ole man, we help you defeat Aizen and his crew and we get full reinstatment into SS. if you deny us we will fight both you and Aizen and the winner takes all!!! (draws sword) So whats its gonna be ole man??"

Darth Kenshin · 08-14-2008

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Originally Posted by bigdaddy9247

I know if i was Shinji, I would be like
"Hears the deal ole man, we help you defeat Aizen and his crew and we get full reinstatment into SS. if you deny us we will fight both you and Aizen and the winner takes all!!! (draws sword) So whats its gonna be ole man??"

might be a dumb question, but what makes you think they want to go back?

mariaHana-san · 07:23 AM

i believe that vizards are against Aizen so they 're gonna fight him...which means helping the gotei 13,but they wont exacly side with them, since vizards hate the shinigami!!!they seem to me more like a third enemy...

this doesn't mean they are dad guys, but they have their own reasons and purposes that turn them against the gotei 13!!!

silenceisntgold2 · 08-14-2008

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Originally Posted by mariaHana-san

i believe that vizards are against Aizen so they 're gonna fight him...which means helping the gotei 13,but they wont exacly side with them, since vizards hate the shinigami!!!they seem to me more like a third enemy...

The other vizards besides Hiyori never said they hated the Shinigami, so it's more than likely her malevolent nature that has that grudge, not the idea of being a vizard.