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Default Nov. 9th, 2009, 04:42 AM

Aeolin...i see what you saying....i know about his abilities without his soul slayer are outstanding..but eliminating the soul slayer capabilities is step better than not...then you lose like all of them do...
I have my reasons why i think Gin is able counter Aizen but doubt he can kill him....


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Default Nov. 9th, 2009, 06:41 AM

Aizen's weakness could simply be Ichigo, but I think it's Aizen himself. If you take a look at the events that went down, Aizen has planned everything perfect (okay maybe not) but pretty damn close to perfect. Whenever Aizen's plans have deviated, Ichigo has been the cause.

I think, all in all, Aizen will fail because of the only wildcard in the pack, Ichigo. He will out-plan himself.




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Default Nov. 18th, 2009, 02:20 PM

It's funny how Ichigo is the only one that has never seen Aizen's shikai while in possession of Captain + Reiatsu. I'm assuming Kenpachi didn't skip out on Aizen's ceremony like he does every now and then... of all the sessions to skip, he didn't skip out on this one... *sighs*. Now it would be funny if he was revealed to have actually skipped that event and parred up with Ichigo to fight Aizen... Imagine the firepower in that fight yikes..

I also wonder if the effects of Aizen's hypnosis are subject to Reiatsu manipulation. Since we know he has insane amounts of Reiatsu, maybe if your Reiatsu was higher or put enough stress on the spell/environment manipulation, it can shatter it (I'm thinking of the event where Kenpachi wtf removed Maki's little light manipulation technique, that Ichigo and party were having trouble with, when he showed up in the "filler"... dreaded word). So far no one has put up more Reiatsu then Aizen has other than Genryusai, and Genryusai has never fired up in front of Aizen completely. Just a theory, maybe not.

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Default Nov. 19th, 2009, 02:49 AM

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It's funny how Ichigo is the only one that has never seen Aizen's shikai while in possession of Captain + Reiatsu. I'm assuming Kenpachi didn't skip out on Aizen's ceremony like he does every now and then... of all the sessions to skip, he didn't skip out on this one... *sighs*. Now it would be funny if he was revealed to have actually skipped that event and parred up with Ichigo to fight Aizen... Imagine the firepower in that fight yikes..

I also wonder if the effects of Aizen's hypnosis are subject to Reiatsu manipulation. Since we know he has insane amounts of Reiatsu, maybe if your Reiatsu was higher or put enough stress on the spell/environment manipulation, it can shatter it (I'm thinking of the event where Kenpachi wtf removed Maki's little light manipulation technique, that Ichigo and party were having trouble with, when he showed up in the "filler"... dreaded word). So far no one has put up more Reiatsu then Aizen has other than Genryusai, and Genryusai has never fired up in front of Aizen completely. Just a theory, maybe not.
I kind of wonder something like that, too. Basically, now that everyone knows what Aizen can do (and of course, that he's evil) and they'll be looking for it, will that make a difference? The only captains he directly fought (Hitsugaya and Komamura) had no idea what his powers were. Plus, they were enraged, and blindly attacked him. His fake death worked on everyone because no one suspected he would try something like that. But now that all the cards are on the table, are the Shinigami as susceptible?

My initial guess was that there would be a way to account for Kazen Saimin somehow. However, Unohana basically said that there is no point fighting Aizen if you're under it, so I'm starting to change my mind about it.

But again, Ichigo not being under Kazen Saimin is nice and all, but the fact is Aizen was planning on entering the King's Realm to take his throne, which means going through the Zero Squad. Most likely, Aizen doesn't know who's on the Zero Squad, and there are many Shinigami on it that are not under his hypnosis. There's a reason Aizen is so confident. Kazen Saimin is great and all, but he has to have another plan. I doubt he was planning on putting the entire Zero Squad under his hypnosis. If he's confident he can deal with the Zero Squad (either because he has another army, or has vizard powers, or whatever) then I don't think it matters than Ichigo isn't under hypnosis. Aizen will just deal with him the same way he planned on decimating the Zero Squad (most likely, just brute force)
   
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Default Nov. 19th, 2009, 05:05 AM

But According To Manga...
Ichigo is the only one who can beat izen
   
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Default Nov. 20th, 2009, 10:01 AM

yes Ariessy because his hasnt seen his sword..after watching SS arc again at starting to think that Ichigo is under Kazen saimin....although,people might argue how is Ichigo gonna win because Aizen has to go shikai at some point even worse maybe bankai(i doubt ichigo will force him to get to that stage)


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Default Nov. 20th, 2009, 01:22 PM

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Most likely, Aizen doesn't know who's on the Zero Squad, and there are many Shinigami on it that are not under his hypnosis.
Aizen knows of one person whos on the Zero Squad, the former Squad 12 captain. Unless she died in the past 110ish years, he was still a VC when she was a Captain. Although he probably knows nothing about her powers... He knows someone so he can't be that lonely.


   
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Default Nov. 20th, 2009, 02:39 PM

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yes Ariessy because his hasnt seen his sword..after watching SS arc again at starting to think that Ichigo is under Kazen saimin....although,people might argue how is Ichigo gonna win because Aizen has to go shikai at some point even worse maybe bankai(i doubt ichigo will force him to get to that stage)
w8 aizen doesnt have bankai because he was a vice-captain just pointing this out he might of done the same thing as renji maybe



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Default Nov. 23rd, 2009, 03:56 AM

haha shadowfang...you joking right?

Aizen said in TBTP.when a deathgod reaches his peak and has masters every form of fighting from kido to hand-to hand fighting whats their to do?...the next step is hollowfication.......blah blah which means Aizen has a bankai...he has mastered all forms deathgod skills


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Default Nov. 23rd, 2009, 06:45 PM

Also, adding on to what Holyken already said, he was not a Vice-Captain by the time Ichigo and the rest came into the picture. He was the Captain of the 5th Squad and Momo was his Vice-Captain.


   
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