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wow I never4 thought she could become more yoma by taking irenes arm nice point



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it's prity simple.
claymore is creature created by giving human yoma meat and blood in thair body.
so in other words they have mixed blood.
It's true that she is originaly only 1/4 but i think that by taking Irene's arm, had taken place second mixing of blood what would reinforce her original blood and rise her part of yoma.(by taking arm she receive meat and blood what is the same to what organization do, but they only exchange meat at other place probably chest)
yoma meat is core of claymores power, but that meat devour them slowly, as yome devour humans.(whay they need so littre to eat, because they are eating thair own meat(human).)
i think she is between 1/4 and 1/2 yoma right now. because second mixing won't reach that huge reaction that happend first time.

you probably want to know whay are some claymores so much mor powerful than others,
reason is simple, it depend on genas(parts of DNA), how well will they merge together humans and yoma geans. in some cases we could call yoma meat parasite and closer it's to simbiote relationship more power claymore get.

here you have i hope you will understand it.
arent these all speculations or is it mentioned in the anime? ( never read the entire anime only after anime and manga each went their own way )

and if that arm thing is true then that would mean she has experienced only a minor increase cos its only an arm a part so that means she wouldv gone up from 25% yoma to sumthing like ( if we see an arm as about 10% of ones body ) 27,5% overal yoma increase ( with of course variable ammounts of yoma meat throughout the claymores body )...could that be that much? even if that arm contained ANY yoma meat at all..cos like you said it is implanted in the chest and not in ones arm...so does irenes arm really make claire stronger is what i tried to point out :P

and I think some claymore are stronger then others simply cos the yoma was stronger or one of their abilities is stronger...but that doesnt explain why teresa's yoruiki was that much greater then the other ones...so maybe ur right or it is already stated in the anime and I dont have a clue what im talking about...


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it's true that this is my thinking and could not be true, but on other hand it could.
Doesn't blood go trought arm? (hasn't number 4(that one whic she killed) said that her speed increased by a lot, after she get irene's arm), because by your way of thinking she would only got speed increse in her arm and not her whole body, and second thing at that time irenes arm wasn't in half awakened state and clare stil haven't get used to her arm.

you asked if there is any yoma in arm, than how could be any yoma in head of teresa if claymore are humans mind that use monsters body. Irene used 100% of yoma in that arm, what 20% more than normal.
if we look from your point clare wouldn't become even 1/4 of yoma.
but she still need some time to compliteyl merge with irenes arm, the merge is not complite.
even first merge took a lot of time so whay wouldn't second.
when megre will be complited she will be about 45% yoma or less and not only 25%.

and there is still bonus for halfawakaned state, for whic is hard to say how much of yoma she get for that.


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it's true that this is my thinking and could not be true, but on other hand it could.
Doesn't blood go trought arm? (hasn't number 4(that one whic she killed) said that her speed increased by a lot, after she get irene's arm), because by your way of thinking she would only got speed increse in her arm and not her whole body, and second thing at that time irenes arm wasn't in half awakened state and clare stil haven't get used to her arm.

you asked if there is any yoma in arm, than how could be any yoma in head of teresa if claymore are humans mind that use monsters body. Irene used 100% of yoma in that arm, what 20% more than normal.
if we look from your point clare wouldn't become even 1/4 of yoma.
but she still need some time to compliteyl merge with irenes arm, the merge is not complite.
even first merge took a lot of time so whay wouldn't second.
when megre will be complited she will be about 45% yoma or less and not only 25%.

and there is still bonus for halfawakaned state, for whic is hard to say how much of yoma she get for that.
yea that explains a lot you have some good points there! but how do you get to 45%?


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i don't think that she will get the same 50% (25%+25%) with second merge, but she will get more than 25%. (so we get to my first post where i said that she is between 1/4 and 1/2 yoma in other words between 25% and 50%)
so i pick the close number to 50 and i said about 45 and not exactly.
this number is speculation, so it could be wrong.


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It was mentioned that her arm had stronger Yoki than the rest of her body. The arm also gave her the ability to use Elin's flash sword ability.

It didn't alter the rest of her body.
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read all my posts before you comment it.
(number 4, that one whic clare kill her. said that her speed and power improve by alot and she said that reason is that arm of irene)

It's like transfusion, you will get other people blood but because it small ammo it will be change to your in same time, but that blood have to be the same blood type, or that pearson will die.
but yoma blood is much stronger and will rewritte original DNA even with small ammo of blood and irene's blood is much stronger than clare's, so her DNA si corrected and whit that her ammo of yoma, her speed, her power,..., was increased.

don't try to use teresa, because clare's and teresa's blood is allready merge complitely.


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read all my posts before you comment it.
(number 4, that one whic clare kill her. said that her speed and power improve by alot and she said that reason is that arm of irene)

It's like transfusion, you will get other people blood but because it small ammo it will be change to your in same time, but that blood have to be the same blood type, or that pearson will die.
but yoma blood is much stronger and will rewritte original DNA even with small ammo of blood and irene's blood is much stronger than clare's, so her DNA si corrected and whit that her ammo of yoma, her speed, her power,..., was increased.

don't try to use teresa, because clare's and teresa's blood is allready merge complitely.
you dont die from small ammounts of uncompatable blood though :P it makes your blood not very usefull any more...anyway why are you so sure that it is the blood that rewrites DNA and stuff...cos rewriting DNA is quite useless unless a cell actually uses the DNA to make new cells so it should also trigger something that allows a claymore to renew all its body tissue and all the intestants..AND transforming ones body should take a lot of energy and claymores dont eat much...and thats kinda strange...and dont think an anime is neither biologically nor physically 100% correct...


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i answered that allready the yoma meat is that energy core and yoma meat devour human meat from claymore (and from here is that saying: more you use yoma powers faster you will come to awakening, you need some human parts to change back to human, you can not change from nothing, and claymores are probably only eating for human half, don't you think is strange whay claymore eat that littre, but awakened ones eat that much "more than normal yoma") and because of that they do not need to eat that much.
And because of that I compare yoma meat to parasite or simbiotic animals.
the blood is the moust easy to mix and blood have DNA in it.

DNA is like map to whic your body is build. so by changing you DNA you change how your body is build and his features. "Look at clare awakened body" we could say that claymore have two DNA whic are in fight for being dominant, but yoma DNA will eventuraly win, so we could say to maps to build the body and with mind you have to controle whic map is used and whic featuras come whit that.

and there is second thing that saying that there are 1/2 yoma is on some points fake.
10% eyes change
30% face distort
50% body distort
80% point of no return
100% awakened one
i think this is true measure to how much claymore is human and how much is yoma.
that expresion of being half only the moust simple description for normal people.

it's true the only thing we are doing here si writting speculationc about claymore and that mean they may not be true.
allmoust every thing what i writte here is based on manga, anime and on logical connections.


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Dude...this isn't bio chem class....They are a bunch of pixels on a screen.
Chill...
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