[blackmamba]

That may be correct. But in my opinion, using c4ds is only a way of... shall I say, 'practice' for Photoshop. It's like training wheels in a bicycle. o.o" And also, like what Einar told me, "They make sigs easier to do." which is totally true... however, Photoshop does wonders if you know how to utilize it very well. Learning other techniques and effects will be useful, since you'll be able to create something like a c4d, but not really made from cinema 4d, just Photoshop. And of course, not only that, but other awesome effects as well. ^^